As to remember Charice Pempengco’s conversion to the Catholic Faith from Iglesia ni Cristo [manalo]


I will post here the article made by the blog owner of Filipino Cults blog. Some parts of it will never be included because it has only slight focus on Ms. Charice’s conversion. now here is the article.

Obviously, Iglesia Ni Cristo was hurt about Charice Pempengco switch from
Iglesia Ni Cristo back to Roman Catholic. It’s a big media embarrassment for the
Iglesia Ni Cristo cult that a big star like Charice Pempengco turns her back to
the cult headed by the Manalo family. A Filipino blogger, Jay Teodoro, blogged
that the reason why Charice left Iglesia Ni Cristo is MONEY.

Charice
Pempengco Converts From Iglesia Ni Cristo to Catholic

While a bad-mouth, ill mannered INC cult member blogged that the
reason why Charice left INC is because of FAME. With Charice’s fame and busy
schedule, Charice can’t commit with the INC schedule being enforced to the INC
members. (bloc voting is also being enforced to Iglesia Ni Cristo
members)

MONEY and FAME is not the reason why Charice Pempengco left
Iglesia Ni Cristo. VIOLENCE. VIOLENCE is the reason why Charice and her mother
Raquel left the Iglesia Ni Cristo cult. Charice’s irresponsible father is Ricky
Pempengco, an Iglesia Ni Cristo member. Ricky Pempengco was totally dependent to
his parents and a sibling working in Japan. Ricky Pempengco, an Iglesia Ni
Cristo member, has a drug problem who often physically abused his wife, Raquel.
Charice’s mother, Raquel decided to leave her violent and irresponsible INC
member husband because Ricky threatened to kill her.

http://www.charicemania.com/2010/05/20/announcements/yes-looking-back-part-2/

“He
was holding a hammer, and he was choking me.” Raquel recalls.
“I was bleeding
profusely.”

The report says that after that incident, Charice and her mother never heard of
any news from the irresponsible and violent father who happens to be an Iglesia
Ni Cristo member. Raquel only converted from Catholic to Iglesia Ni Cristo
because Ricky, her husband was a member. But after her horrifying marriage
experience, she and Charice decided to leave Iglesia Ni Cristo and returned to
Roman Catholic.

This is the clear evidence why Charice and his mother
Raquel decided to leave Iglesia Ni Cristo. This is also the same reason why
other Filipino Catholics hate Iglesia Ni Cristo, the INC cult members does not
show Christian values to their fellow man. INC bloggers and cult members usually
attacks people and curse/malign others who are not INC members. What a shame.
This is actually where the INC members are actually good at; harassing and
maligning people. Look at the INC blogger, resbak/Conrad. He is a classic
example how INC member behaves in the internet. He does not even know how to
tell the truth about Charice’s violent, drug addict father because Ricky
Pempengco is an Iglesia Ni Cristo member. Resbak/Conrad is shielding/hiding the
fact that Charice’s father is a violent, drug addict, irresponsible Iglesia Ni
Cristo member. I have INC friends and I just like to tell you that Resbak/Conrad
and Charice’s father are embarrassment to Iglesia Ni Cristo.

Charice
Pempengco is an Iglesia Ni Cristo member, that’s a lie.
Charice’s father,
Ricky, is violent, drug addict Iglesia Ni Cristo member, that’s a
fact.

It’s quite disappointing to know that Charice’s father is a
monster, an INC member.

Who in the right mind would threaten to kill his
wife?

Who in the right mind would hold a hammer and choke

Who in the right mind would leave his family?

Ask Ricky Pempengco, an INC member.

read more: http://filipinocults.blogspot.com/2010/06/iglesia-ni-cristo-and-charice-pempengco.html

  1. #1 by Brian Lyons on September 3, 2011 - 3:32 pm

    thats scary like a spookey story i’m not happy i’m frightind

    • #2 by flewen on September 5, 2011 - 6:46 am

      you are frightened to what her father had done?

  2. #3 by Christian on September 11, 2011 - 10:33 am

    So the reason of Charice’s convertion to the Catholic Church is not about the teachings of the Catholic Church but because of personal reasons.

    Ika nga sa kasabihan ng mga matatanda:

    KAHIT SAANG GUBAT MAY AHAS…

    Kung naging masama man ang Ama ni Charice at ginawa niya ang mga bagay na iyon, kasalanan ba ng INC iyon?

    Wala namang hindi kayang gawin ang isang taong may ambisyon sa buhay…

    Makatutulong kay Charice ang pagpapaconvert niya sa Catholic Church sa kaniyang Career, at kitang-kita naman iyon…

    Walang iniwan lang kay Esau anak ni JACOB, na ipinagpalit ang kaniyang pagkapanganay dahil sa isang mangkok na pagkain…

    A TRUE INC member na tinanggap at naunawa ang aral, KAHIT MATIWALAG DAHIL NAKAGAWA NG PAGLABAG, HINDI NAGIGING KATOLIKO ULIT…marami akong kakilalang ganiyan…malapit pa sa buhay ko ang isa…na kahit natiwalag siya…ang puso niya ay sa INC pa rin…

    Ang mga BUMABALIK SA PAGIGING KATOLIKO O SA IBANG RELIHIYON, ay hindi naging TUNAY NA INC…

    MGA TAONG HINDI NATAMNAN NG ARAL….BAKIT HINDI NINYO INTERVIEWHIN SI CHARICE AT MAMA NITO AT TANUNGIN NINYO SILA- KUNG HINDI BA BAWAL NG DIYOS ANG PAGLUHOD SA REBULTO? AT TINGNAN NINYO KUNG ANO ISASAGOT NILA.

    Kaagad bang naging Catholic si Charice after na makipaghiwalay ang Mama niya sa Ama nito?

    ANG PANANAKIT NG ASAWA AY RAMPANT DIN SA KATOLIKO HINDI BA?

    PERO NATITIYAK KO SA IYO NA WALANG MAGIGING INC NA KAYA LANG NAGING MIYEMBRO NITO AY DAHIL SA SINASAKTAN SIYA NG KANIYANG ASAWA…

    Napakababaw na dahilan iyan ng paglipat ng isang tao ng relihiyon….

    ANG DAPAT NA DAHILAN NG PAGLIPAT NG TAO SA ISANG RELIHIYON AY SUMAMPALATAYA SIYA SA ARAL…

    MATANONG KO LANG INARALAN BA SI CHARICE NG MGA ARAL NG KATOLIKO BAGO SIYA BININYAGAN? NAUNAWAAN BA NAMAN NIYA?

    MAY MAIPAPAKITA BA KAYO SA AMIN NA LINK NA SINASABING KAYA SIYA NAGKATOLIKO AY DAHIL SA NANIWALA SIYA NA TOTOO ANG MGA ARAL NG IGLESIA KATOLIKA…

  3. #4 by flewen on September 21, 2011 - 3:45 pm

    naku po Christian…I did not emphasize in here the INC as a whole..I only showed up to you INC fanatics that INC members are not perfect..and since all of you are not perfect, then you should have cleansed your backyards first before asking us to clean our own..We should have been respectful to what you believe Christian, but your predecessors started it all up by putting mud to the Catholic Church [remember, adhering to the Adventist’s claim regarding the Papal Tiara].

    and that’s how your reaction went..it became as gloomy as reszo seres.

    Now, with regards to Ms. Charice’s conversion, we see how she became more respected by everybody. [only INCs hated her so much after her conversion]. Her statements regarding her experiences during the time when she was still an INC member is a clear proof that she sees brighter life as a Catholic than being an INC..and we cannot force her if that’s what she believed in..[and I am proud for her conversion]

    • #5 by jokingonlee on September 22, 2011 - 2:43 am

      Excuse dear the INC are not fanatics. We are all human like you. We never said we are perfect. the teachings of Christ and Apostles may be perfect but we as their followers are not. That is why we need salvation.

      We are indeed saddened for the experiences Charice and her mother underwent from a person who should have been their defender. Who wouldn’t. That is why the INC leadership would not hesitate to expel the evil brethrens who do not abide by the teachings in the bible.

      Yes, we do clean our own dearest. But for some they took refuge in other faiths instead of trusting their leaders to help them. Thats their decision. Its not that surprising. The INC leadership can only extend their hand but they cannot force a brethren to take it if they won’t. Charice and her Mother probably found comfort from famous personalities of your faith.

      And it wouldn’t be surprising their awe in meeting such influential and famous people who have extended their hand. Its not surprising if they decided to switch to your faith. it happens. People can easily be taken by such earthly glitters.

      As you can see the decision to convert was not borne out of FAITH but out of a VERY BAD EXPERIENCE. Not out of BELIEF but of VIOLENCE that has haunted them.

      Do remember that their are countless catholic wives who are being subjected to violence to the same magnitude if not greater. What have you done to prevent it?

      You said “your predecessors started it all up by putting mud to the Catholic Church” referring to the papal tiara. We do not adhere to the Adventist point dear. We merely pointed what they knew. Remember however your mentors deny it.

      It is a fact written also in the Donation of Constatine. Although this document is already being DENIED by your mentors. It was CLEARLY USED by your church and based on history the Cahtolic church BENEFITED from this document.

      “The earliest known instance of the phrase Vicarius Filii Dei is in the Donation of Constantine, now dated between the eighth and the ninth centuries AD.” source wikipedia

      So it is not exactly mud that was being thrown at you dear but FACTs written by your mentors then. But later DENIED. The said document was made IN FAVOUR your POPES and of the Roman Catholic Church.

      So please blame us for that.

      Regarding what you said “she sees brighter life as a Catholic than being an INC”. Well, that would be your personal opinion as you see something based on what you see now. You feel honored by a person of her status converting to your faith which is not surprising. But do consider those who were ABUSED by your PRIESTs and the MANY CATHOLICs being subjected to VIOLENCE by your fellow catholics.

      This is in no way mud slinging but a wake call.

      A fellow INC of mine was likewise subjected to such VIOLENCE including her mother. If Charice and her mom were subject to a hammer. They were subjected to a bolo in their necks. As a friend I could not help but want to kick her husbands ass but a sober mind calls for another way and that is to take him to our church elders.

      Violent characters of people whether in my faith or yours is not condoned by the teachings of Christ or the Apostles. The INC follows the teaching of the apostle to EXPEL THE EVIL BRETHREN.

      I regret to say that it is not being done by your faith. Take a good look at what your mentors did when their fellow priests were found to be PEDOPHILEs. Instead of expelling them they TRANSFERRED them to another parishes where the ABUSES CONTINUED.

      And your church PAID for the CRIMINAL ACTs to the point of bankruptcy.

      Is this mud? or is this the TRUTH? well, judge for yourself. It is recorded in the COURT RECORDs of the US. My aunt whose a devout catholic in LA was so embarass when she knew the priest who officiated her marriage was convicted of rape and child molestation. She’s still a catholic but non practicing one which is not surprising.

      Lastly, I agree we cannot force Charice if thats what she believed in. But what did she BELIEVED in? Did your mentors indoctrinated her prior to that ceremony? Guess not, you obviously didn’t point that out in your post, which should have been more important than the ceremony

      She converted as you say due to violence she had experience not out of belief in your faith. And that is what I understand in your post.

      • #6 by flewen on September 30, 2011 - 4:57 pm

        I have my reply already about this issue, please follow at the link you posted

        thanks,

        flewen

  4. #7 by jokingonlee on September 22, 2011 - 3:45 am

    Kindly correct my typo errors. You can also read the corrected post here if you don’t want to publish my comment on this.

    http://jokingonlee.blogspot.com/2011/09/charice-pempengcos-conversion-not-out.html

    • #8 by flewen on September 30, 2011 - 4:47 pm

      hi jokingonlee, I have no time reading your article because I am a bit busy with my work as of now but i feel interested as to how you read my article and I congratulate you on that..anyway, when yoyu stated that charice pempengco’s conversion was not about faith but only because of violence will also reason out that behind the INC identity of his father, Ms. Charice Pempengco saw the rudeness of his father. he never acted what they supposed to feel as former INCs, they all felt being brutally scourned by the inhumane acts of his father. It might be at some point that it was the main reason for their conversion but please take in your mind that the church never directly converts an individual who is not an already an infant if he doesn’t know the basics of the Catholic teachings. and since Ms. Charice and his brother were taught already by the cathecists of the Catholic church they attended, that initial reason would develop and eventually understand what the Catholic Church really teaches. You may have a good try in trying to answer my posts but the fact is that you only limited your reasoning based on the initial perception of Charice and not the totality of her conversion. I watched also in GMA’s saksi when her mother was interviewed that she is happy that her son and daughter share already the same faith to her in which makes them complete and united even if they have no father.

  5. #9 by sisiisiiisisiis on November 27, 2011 - 3:34 pm

    bakit sasama ang loob ng mga INC, are you sure miss charise pempengco ikaw ang dapat ang sumama ang loob kasi nasa bayan banal na kami at ikaw papuntang empiyerno.

    • #10 by flewen on November 27, 2011 - 5:31 pm

      unang una po, hindi ako si charice pempengco kaya kung may concerns ka sa kanya, sa website ka niya pumasok.

      pangalawa po, sure ka ba talaga na nasa bayan ka na ng banal? so banal din pala ang taong nanggugulpi ng ina’t anak?

    • #11 by perfumer on March 3, 2012 - 12:05 pm

      korek.. Sana lang dumating ang panah0n at matauhan si charice at bumalik sa INC. Sayang sya =(

      • #12 by flewen on March 8, 2012 - 4:14 pm

        hindi na po niya kelangang matauhan dahil nasa iglesiya katolika niya nakita ang tunay na liwanag, hindi lamang spotlight kung hindi tunay na liwanag mula sa Diyos..kayo, go na rin para hindi kayo magsisi sa huli

      • #13 by flewen on April 19, 2012 - 4:37 pm

        hindi sayang ang pag-alis niya sa incm, mas lalong naging advantage sa kaniya na mas matutuhanniya ang paniniwalang katoliko, may mga nagdidisagree man sa mga personal niyang kamalian bilang isang tao, hindi ito hadlang at hindi naging mali ang desisiyon niya na maging Katoliko…malas niyo lang at nawalan kayo ng miyembro na sikat sa sining ng musika sa ating bansa ngayon..

  6. #14 by sisiisiiisisiis on November 27, 2011 - 4:58 pm

    at tsaka ur rich and kilala ka, pero ikaw kilala ng dios?

    • #15 by flewen on November 27, 2011 - 5:33 pm

      baket kunektado ang pagiging mayaman ngayon ni charice? isa pa, sa lahat ng shows ni charice, nangunguna ang Diyos sa kanyang pinasasalamatan kaya imposible iyang notion mo, baket, sure ka ba na hindi kilala ni Diyos si Charice?

  7. #16 by sisiisiiisisiis on November 27, 2011 - 5:15 pm

    charise basahin mo Exodo 20:3-5 “Huwag kang magkakaroon ng ibang mga dios sa harap ko. Huwag kang gagawa para sa iyo ng larawang inanyuan o ng kawangis man ng anomang anyong nasa itaas sa langit, o ng nasa ibaba sa lupa, o ng nasa tubig sa ilalim ng lupa: Huwag mong yuyukuran sila, o paglingkuran man sila; sapagka’t akong Panginoon mong Dios, ay Dios na mapanibughuin, na aking dinadalaw ang katampalasanan ng mga magulang sa mga anak, hanggang sa ikatlo at ikaapat na salin ng lahi ng mga napopoot sa akin;”

    • #17 by flewen on November 27, 2011 - 5:35 pm

      uulitin ko po po sisiisiiisisiis, hindi po ako si charice, hehehe

      pangalawa, ayon sa bersikulong ipinoste mo, huwag gumawa ng mga imahe ng mga ____..pakifill-in na lang po ng blank para magkaintindihan tayo ha bago ako mag-fofoloow-up question..

      salamat

  8. #18 by sisiisiiisisiis on November 27, 2011 - 5:22 pm

    lagi ka tumatAwag sa dios meron ka kailangan, pero ang dios charise pempengco ay hindi ka niya lalo KILALA.

    • #19 by flewen on November 27, 2011 - 5:38 pm

      masiyado ka namang judgemental sisiisiiisisiis, sa pagkakaalam ko, kahit nasa achievement stage na si charice ay laging nasa unahan ng listahan niya ang Diyos, lahat ng mga shows niya sa ASAP na nakita kong nagpapakitang gilas siya doon eh habang iniinterbiyo eh nagpapasalamat agad siya sa Diyos sa achievements na naabot niya..masiyado ka talagang judgement para sabihin na hindi siya kilala ng atong Maylikha, diyos ka ba para paratangan siya ng ganyan? baket, yung ama ni charice, kilala rin ba siya ng ating Diyos? siguro kilala siya, sa paggawa ng karahasan..tingnan mo tuloy namayapa na po siya…

      • #20 by perfumer on March 3, 2012 - 11:59 am

        umalis sya sa Iglesia dahil nambubugb0g tatay nya? Ibig sabihin natis0d sya ng dahil sa tao lang. Di naman tayo sa tao naglilingkod kundi sa AMA.. Kung tao titignan mo e matitis0d ka lang talaga at nagkakamali tayo lahat. Nakakaawa si charice, hindi matibay ang pananampalataya nya.

      • #21 by flewen on March 8, 2012 - 4:09 pm

        ebidensiya po ito na hindi lahat ng mga INC ay mga matitino, iyan po ang bottomline

      • #22 by flewen on April 19, 2012 - 4:39 pm

        ito ang nakaktawa sa inyo, gagamit kayo ng mga taktikang pabalbal pero kung ang puri ng inyong mga miyembro ang siyang naeexpose, gagamit agad sa reasoning na “tao lamang”, nakakatawa kayo, isa itong halimbawa ng ignorantiam, hindi mo ba nahalata na sa lahat ng mga artikulong ipinoste ng iyong mga kabaro sa paniniwala, marami sa kanila ay atakeng personal, tapos ngayon ikaw bilang incm, kapag natamaan na ang mga miyembro eh sasabihin na “hindi tayo sa tao naglilingkod kundi sa AMA?”..mahiya ka sa palusot mo igan..

  9. #23 by eid on January 31, 2012 - 2:39 am

    I don’t really understand those poeple who joins unnecessary religions like INC which in my personal views e sa una pa man na itinatag ng isang niyang si manalo e walang credibilidad. bakit? hindi ba kau ngdududa? sino ba ang nagtatag niyan? wag niyong sabihing ang diyos kasi si manalo ay ordinaryong tao na nakilala lamang sa pagtuligsa sa doctrina ng roman catholic tsaka magulong relihiyon yan at gumagawa ng sariling judgement sa tao kasi sinong luko luko na may matinong isip na pag hindi ka miyembro ng inc e demonyo ka? isa pa walang historical claims ang mga inc, baka nga nangunguha lng din yan sa scriptures sa roman catholic hangang ngayon tska hindi ba kau nagtataka parang ngdadagdag cla ng kung ano anong verses sa bibliya hay nakuuuu kaya babala ko sa mga kapwa filipino kung kayo ay dumadaan sa krisis sa buhay nio at humihingi ng christian counseling doon kayo sa pari o kaya mga kaibigan nio tska mag el shaddai kau ang el shaddai ay hindi naguutos ng kung ano ano its like payong kaibigan lng cla ukol sa family issues. sa maniwala kau at hindi lahat ng kakaibang christian denomination ay galing sa romano catholico at tanging roman catholic lamang ang may pinanghahawakan ng historical background ukol sa christians at kay jesus at isa pa ang roman catholic ay itinatag mismo ng desipolo ni jesus at iyon ay si SAINT PETER at hindi ung kung sino sino tao jan na magaling lamang magsalita at mangbola ng tao.

  10. #24 by tagoy on March 3, 2012 - 11:08 am

    Patawad po mga kaibigan pero lahat po kayong mga nagsisikomento dito puro maling relihiyon ang mga ipinagtatanggol. mapa INC, mapa Catholico, mapa El Shaddai at kung sino sino pang gustong mag comment..Bilang isang mananampalatya sa tunay na Dios, magkaakibat yung moral values at namumuno sa isang samahang sa Dios. Una itinuturo sa Biblia mula pa sa Lumang Tipan hanggang sa Bago na Mahalin mo ang iyong asawa’t mga anak at di lang yan pati nga mga kaaway dapat mahalin mo. eto po ang talata;ANG DATING BIBLIA
    ROMA 12:20
    Kaya’t kung ang iyong kaaway ay magutom, pakanin mo; kung siya’y mauhaw, painumin mo: sapagka’t sa paggawa mo ng gayon ay mga baga ng apoy ang ibubunton mo sa kaniyang ulo.

    • #25 by flewen on March 8, 2012 - 4:10 pm

      kaibigan, hindi po sekta ang el shaddai, huwag mong kalimutan iyan..

      pangalawa, nabasa mo ba ang Proverbs 3:15?

    • #26 by flewen on April 19, 2012 - 4:43 pm

      unang una, mali ang paggamit mo sa el shaddai bilang isang relihiyon, diyan pa lang, palpak ka na..

      pangalawa, huwag mong gamitin ang mga moral na mga turo ng Bibliya dahil lahat ng mga naniniwala sa Bibliya ay naniniwala dito, hindi moral na aspeto ang pinagdedebatihan dito igan, doktrina, isang bagay na gagamiting ng mga born again para makahikayat ng mga katoliko at mga di katolikong aanib sa kanila eh ang paggamit ng mga bersikulong para sa moral ng tao, imposibleng hindi ito pinaniniwalaan ng marami..doktrina lang po igan, hindi moral.

      pangatlo, naniniwala ang iglesiya katolika sa bersikulong iyan, at diyan pinakikita na walang silbi ang paniniwala kung walang gawa, diyan lumalabas na tama ang katuruan ng Iglesiya katolika patungkol sa kaligtasan, diyan pa lang, sablay na ang argumento mo igan..

  11. #27 by lancecobi on March 3, 2012 - 3:40 pm

    I’m an INC member also and Charice is my singing idol. I don’t think na tama sa aming mga miyembro ng INC ang husgahan sya. As a member, never did I judged anybody, coz I know for myself that I am a sinner as well. All people are sinners and I believe if you are a sinner, you have no right to judge anyone, not even if you think that you are in the right religion.

    • #28 by flewen on March 8, 2012 - 4:09 pm

      i did not judge him naman, it is just that, the hypocrisy of the majority of INC members who think that their fellow are more righteous than Catholics prove this at large to their tactic to disprove the Catholic Church, this also shows that not all people are perfect.

    • #29 by flewen on April 19, 2012 - 4:35 pm

      alam mo, your cohorts have the habit of accusing Catholics as bad omen in the society, they tend to use negative tactics by pinpointing individual mistakes of catholics, but once catholics will rebut your colleagues by posting also the misdeeds of your churchmates, they will use also the kind of reasoning that you are doing…you have to remember that it was the INC that first used that, it is YOUR HABIT, not us..and besides, your doctrine states that only from INC are saved, is that the kind of reasoning that you will do now by posting here in my blog by saying, “…not even if you think that you are in the right religion.”? is that the style of born again christians when once pride is being hanpered by a knock out by Catholics who really know their faith?

  12. #30 by Debbie Navarro on October 21, 2012 - 2:56 pm

    This blog post is “one sided” Period!. Look to left and right.. Front and back blogger. You’re just an idiot hiding from your computer. Why? Their are millions of addicts Catholics but not a big deal? But when it is related to INC it is? Oh! C’mon…. We’ve been expecting this, and what we can do is to wait and see……

    Their are catholic priest who abused and rape woman.. So? Don’t judge anyone cause you are nothing in this world, not even a single DOT. Stop this nonsense and pray that you’ll not going to hell.

    • #31 by flewen on October 21, 2012 - 4:42 pm

      this is a Catholic blog. we offer facts that will help you be enlightened about the falsity of the doctrines of your manmade church. I am not actually hiding Debbie, it seems you forgot to check facebook as where I am always online…

      Ask also your brethren as on why they keep on attacking about the Catholic faith. Is it not one sided for you? We do not deny anything about bad priests. Did we deny it in here? ask yourself.

      • #32 by Debbie Navarro on October 22, 2012 - 12:41 am

        What enlightened are you talking about?
        I think your speaking to yourself. I don’t know who you are but let me tell you one thing. WE ARE STILL HUMAN BEING, A sinner of all kinds.
        Keep in mind that we are NOT perfect nobody does, don’t judge the whole church by a single person’s mistake.

        Before judging others, have you look in the mirror?

        So, this is a catholic blog. Very funny…. Cause i am expecting Bible Verses, Advice, And encouragement messages for your members but the way i see it…. This blog is all about BLAH! BLAH! BLAH!

        You made a blog to attack INC? WOW! That was generous!.
        .

      • #33 by flewen on October 22, 2012 - 4:56 am

        What enlightened are you talking about?

        yes, the article shows what it is really the Catholic Church is.

        I think your speaking to yourself. I don’t know who you are but let me tell you one thing. WE ARE STILL HUMAN BEING, A sinner of all kinds.
        Keep in mind that we are NOT perfect nobody does, don’t judge the whole church by a single person’s mistake.

        did I judged someone in here? who are you to say that I judged you? it is your CHURCH that judged Catholics as pagans, and from the EVIL. so now tell me, I have given you proofs in my blog, so any problem to say that I judged you?

        Before judging others, have you look in the mirror?

        why not ask your ministers first before asking me that. Who’s accusive in many aspects about the Catholic faith?

        So, this is a catholic blog. Very funny…. Cause i am expecting Bible Verses, Advice, And encouragement messages for your members but the way i see it…. This blog is all about BLAH! BLAH! BLAH!

        You made a blog to attack INC? WOW! That was generous!.

        yes, this is a Catholic blog, any problem?

        excuse me? i have given lots of Bible verses in my posts. Have you ever been reading my posts? it is insane to say that you are accusing me of not showing bible verses. That kind of arrogance of yours lead you to damnation. You totally make yourself ignorant about my blog. you are just new eh, please review my posts before accusing me ok.

      • #34 by Debbie Navarro on October 22, 2012 - 5:43 am

        Am proud to be ignorant as long as Catholic Faith is concerned.

      • #35 by flewen on October 22, 2012 - 5:46 am

        Debbie, are you proud to be ignorant about the Catholic Faith? meaning your heart is landlocked with their deceptions?

        read: https://apocalypsisjesuchristi.wordpress.com/2012/10/21/answering-an-inc-member-about-the-conversion-of-charice-pempengco-to-the-catholic-faith/

      • #36 by Debbie Navarro on October 22, 2012 - 3:56 am

        Syempre naman… Kung hindi ka na pwede sa langit san ka pa ba pupunta????

      • #37 by flewen on October 22, 2012 - 4:58 am

        ahh..kung hindi puwede? did I proclaim in here that you cannot be in heaven [if and only if you are ignorant about the Catholic faith]?

  13. #38 by dane on October 24, 2012 - 5:30 pm

    Please don’t be An Ignorant bago umatake lalo n yung mga hndi Catholic, tapos tungkol p po s Religion yung ipapangbanat nyo lalo n yung INC. Please po nkakaatend po ako ng mga pagsamba nyo at mg bible study pa, lagi may pagkukumpara s mga gawi ng Catholics,, eh lhat nman po yan nsa bible. Wag nyo po husgahan ang Catholic teaching kc ang Panginoon po ang nagtatag nito. Kinakalaban niyo ang Diyos spagkat kami ang kanyang Simbahan,, kung may mga pagkakamali po ang Catholic member hindi po ibig sbhin nun mali ang teachings namin. He commit personal wrong doing kung may mga rape case pa o killings n nsangkot ang isang Catholic member,, pagdudusahan nya po ng kaprusahan yun kc personal siyang nagkamali at labas ang Katuruan ng Simbahan dun, Gusto ko rin po ipaabot s inyo n kpag wla s INC eh mpupunta s Impyerno?! Napakamali po ng mga ganung kaisipan!! Napakkitid ng mga kulto n ngssbi ng ganun. Hnd po dhil s paganib o hnd paganib ang pagkkapunta s kparûsahan kundi s pakakasala sDiyos,,.

    • #39 by Jo King on December 16, 2012 - 11:50 pm

      Come again dear you say “Please don’t be An Ignorant bago umatake lalo n yung mga hndi Catholic”

      We are not at all ignorant dear when it comes to catholic teachings, most of the INC came from the Catholic. So don’t ignorant aboutl that dearest.

      Ano kamo po sabi ninyo “lagi may pagkukumpara s mga gawi ng Catholics,, eh lhat nman po yan nsa bible. Wag nyo po husgahan ang Catholic teaching kc ang Panginoon po ang nagtatag nito.”

      Kung lahat po nasa biblia dear eh SAAN po naman tintuturo ng BIBLIA ang ukol po sa TRINIDAD o THREE PERSONs IN ONE GOD? Kaya po hindi po masama na MAGSURI at IKUMPARA ang mga inaaral ninyo sa bagay na NASUSULAT.

      Hindi po kami ang humugusga sa inyo kungdi ang BIBLIA ang HUMUHUSGA po sa inyo. Tulad ng mga BEREANS po SINUSURI po nila talaga ang mga sinasabi ng mga apostol sa mga NASUSULAT.

      Kaya nga kapag TINATANONG kayo SAAN NASUSULAT sa BIBLIA na TINURO ng PANGINOON ang CATHOLIC TEACHING ninyo? tulad lang po ng katangang CATHOLIC.

      May TINURO po ba ang mga APOSTOL o si CRISTO na yung tinuturo nila ay CATHOLIC TEACHING? abay MAG-ISIP ka nga. Kungdi mo MAKITA ang TURO sa biblia UKOL sa sinasabi po ninyo abay gayon po ang mga BULAG.

      Hindi nila MAKITA ang UKOL sa SINASABI nila. Kaya po hindi masama pong MAGSURI.

      Ano kamo sabi po ninyo “kung may mga pagkakamali po ang Catholic member hindi po ibig sbhin nun mali ang teachings namin”

      Tama po. Dahil IBA po ang PAGKAKAMALI ng TAO sa kung ito’y LIHIS sa ITINURO sa kanya. Labas po ang TEACHINGs ninyo dun.

      Dahil ang PAGKAKAMALI po ng TEACHINGs ay UKOL lang naman sa TURO ninyo kung ITO po talaga ay NASUSULAT sa BIBLIA. Kaya kung WALA kayong MAKITA ukol sa pagTUTURO ng mga APOSTOL at ni Cristo diyan sa TRINIDAD ninyo abay MALINAW po na MALI ang TEACHINGs ninyo.

      Ano po kamo sabi ninyo “pagdudusahan nya po ng kaprusahan yun kc personal siyang nagkamali at labas ang Katuruan ng Simbahan dun”

      Tama po KUNG HINDI KINUKUNSINTI ng SIMBAHAN ninyo ang mga KARUMALDUMAL at KAHAYUPAN ginawa ng mga PEDOPHILE PRIESTS ninyo.

      E lumalabas na KINUKUNSINTA pala ng SIMBAHAN ninyo ito kaya nga po NAHATULAN ang SIMBAHAN ninyo at PINAGBAYAD sa punto pa na magfile kayo ng BANKRUPTCY dahil lang sa KAGAGAWAN ng SIMBAHAN ninyo.

      Opo malinaw LABAS dapat ang SIMBAHAN ninyo sa KAHAYUPAN ng mga GINAWA ng PARI ninyo. Pero imbis na ipaharap sa hustisya abay NILIPAT LIPAT ng SIMBAHAN ninyo ang mga PARI ninyo at nalaman na TULOY TULOY ang mga KAHAYUPAN ginawa ng KAPARIAN ninyo.

      Sa PUNTONG iyon kaya NANAGOT ang SIMBAHAN ninyo. Kaya po wag ninyo po ikagalit na sabihin natin na KONSINTIDOR ang SIMBAHAN ninyo sa KAHAYUPAN pinagagawa NG MGA PEDOPHILE PRIESTs ninyo.

      Ang pagkakasala sa Diyos my dear ay PAGSALANGSANG sa KAUTUSAN at yun ang NAGAGAWA ng ninyo dahil hindi ninyo magawa ang utos na HUWAG MAGSIHIGIT sa mga bagay na NASUSULAT.

      Abay saan po ang ARAL ukol sa pagamit ng ROSARIO? kung nagSUSURI ka lang my dear NAPULOT po ng SIMBAHAN ninyo ito sa mga PANGKATI NG PAGANO

      • #40 by flewen on December 21, 2012 - 6:49 am

        (Come again dear you say “Please don’t be An Ignorant bago umatake lalo n yung mga hndi Catholic”)
        yes, you are ignorant about the Catholic faith..are you not aware to how your posts go along by pinpointing individual mistakes instead of going along with the church´s teachings?

        (We are not at all ignorant dear when it comes to catholic teachings, most of the INC came from the Catholic. So don’t ignorant aboutl that dearest.)
        who cares if majority of your members were once Catholics. As i said, it is not because you were a former Catholic or your members were once Catholics will mean they are knowledgeable already on the teachings of the faith they lived in for so long..that´s the main problem. Because even if you will ask your members, 99.9 % of them are either nominal Catholics.

        (Ano kamo po sabi ninyo “lagi may pagkukumpara s mga gawi ng Catholics,, eh lhat nman po yan nsa bible. Wag nyo po husgahan ang Catholic teaching kc ang Panginoon po ang nagtatag nito.”

        Kung lahat po nasa biblia dear eh SAAN po naman tintuturo ng BIBLIA ang ukol po sa TRINIDAD o THREE PERSONs IN ONE GOD? Kaya po hindi po masama na MAGSURI at IKUMPARA ang mga inaaral ninyo sa bagay na NASUSULAT.)
        it is already manifested in Genesis 1:26. Try to reread the verse and there you will realize that someone other from the Father created the world.

        (Hindi po kami ang humugusga sa inyo kungdi ang BIBLIA ang HUMUHUSGA po sa inyo. Tulad ng mga BEREANS po SINUSURI po nila talaga ang mga sinasabi ng mga apostol sa mga NASUSULAT.)
        Bereans did something that are objective and not accusive. When they tried to lambast those who teach heretically, they condemn in an honest manner and not the kind of tactic that your church is doing..remeber, until now, your church wasn´t able to provide a vivid proof that the Papal Tiara have the encryption of VIcarius Filii Dei.

        (Kaya nga kapag TINATANONG kayo SAAN NASUSULAT sa BIBLIA na TINURO ng PANGINOON ang CATHOLIC TEACHING ninyo? tulad lang po ng katangang CATHOLIC.

        May TINURO po ba ang mga APOSTOL o si CRISTO na yung tinuturo nila ay CATHOLIC TEACHING? abay MAG-ISIP ka nga. Kungdi mo MAKITA ang TURO sa biblia UKOL sa sinasabi po ninyo abay gayon po ang mga BULAG.)

        yes, read: http://www.scripturecatholic.com

        (Hindi nila MAKITA ang UKOL sa SINASABI nila. Kaya po hindi masama pong MAGSURI.)

        pagsusuri sa tamang lugar po sir. In case you are also searching for truth, you should have listened also to the Catholic explanation on her doctrines..

        (Ano kamo sabi po ninyo “kung may mga pagkakamali po ang Catholic member hindi po ibig sbhin nun mali ang teachings namin”

        Tama po. Dahil IBA po ang PAGKAKAMALI ng TAO sa kung ito’y LIHIS sa ITINURO sa kanya. Labas po ang TEACHINGs ninyo dun.

        Dahil ang PAGKAKAMALI po ng TEACHINGs ay UKOL lang naman sa TURO ninyo kung ITO po talaga ay NASUSULAT sa BIBLIA. Kaya kung WALA kayong MAKITA ukol sa pagTUTURO ng mga APOSTOL at ni Cristo diyan sa TRINIDAD ninyo abay MALINAW po na MALI ang TEACHINGs ninyo.)

        and that´s why Catholic Apologists were asking for your answer regarding the claim of your pasugo about the VFD..

        (Ano po kamo sabi ninyo “pagdudusahan nya po ng kaprusahan yun kc personal siyang nagkamali at labas ang Katuruan ng Simbahan dun”

        Tama po KUNG HINDI KINUKUNSINTI ng SIMBAHAN ninyo ang mga KARUMALDUMAL at KAHAYUPAN ginawa ng mga PEDOPHILE PRIESTS ninyo.)

        there may be some cases of inconsistencies on the actions of some Catholic individuals but it doesn´t mean the whole church is absent about that issue. That´s why there are investigations and ecclesiastical tribunals so that the truth behind those accusations will be shown.

        (E lumalabas na KINUKUNSINTA pala ng SIMBAHAN ninyo ito kaya nga po NAHATULAN ang SIMBAHAN ninyo at PINAGBAYAD sa punto pa na magfile kayo ng BANKRUPTCY dahil lang sa KAGAGAWAN ng SIMBAHAN ninyo.)

        the church paid for what those bad priests had done. It was not about the church paid for the silence of the victim but of the moral damages that a certain priest had commited not just to the victim but also to the whole Church. But in many ways, the Catholic Church still have modest average of bad priests than bad pastors. The question is why Iglesia ni Cristo were silent about it and you always sensationalize the issue that as if ONLY THE CATHOLIC CHURCH suffers that kind of dilemma?

        (o malinaw LABAS dapat ang SIMBAHAN ninyo sa KAHAYUPAN ng mga GINAWA ng PARI ninyo. Pero imbis na ipaharap sa hustisya abay NILIPAT LIPAT ng SIMBAHAN ninyo ang mga PARI ninyo at nalaman na TULOY TULOY ang mga KAHAYUPAN ginawa ng KAPARIAN ninyo.

        Sa PUNTONG iyon kaya NANAGOT ang SIMBAHAN ninyo. Kaya po wag ninyo po ikagalit na sabihin natin na KONSINTIDOR ang SIMBAHAN ninyo sa KAHAYUPAN pinagagawa NG MGA PEDOPHILE PRIESTs ninyo.)

        my answer is the same as above.

        (Ang pagkakasala sa Diyos my dear ay PAGSALANGSANG sa KAUTUSAN at yun ang NAGAGAWA ng ninyo dahil hindi ninyo magawa ang utos na HUWAG MAGSIHIGIT sa mga bagay na NASUSULAT.)

        so as the claim of Mr. Manalo regarding the fareast and his claim to be an angel? where can we read that he is an angel?

        (Abay saan po ang ARAL ukol sa pagamit ng ROSARIO? kung nagSUSURI ka lang my dear NAPULOT po ng SIMBAHAN ninyo ito sa mga PANGKATI NG PAGANO)

        really? are you not reading church history about it? are the content that you can hear when a Catholic prays using the rosary not biblical or not?

  14. #41 by dane on October 24, 2012 - 5:54 pm

    Info rin po n Catholic teaches about salvation pero wala po kami tinuturo n maliligtas k lng pa nagCatholic ka! Sa mga Kulto lng po yun,, although Catholic p po ang nagfacilitate para mabuo ang mga aklat at mg sipi n maaring pagkunan natin ng pananampalataya n ngayon tinatawag n po ntin n bible eh mismong Catholic pa ang huhusgahan! Mga intrumento kayo ng kadiliman kung ganun. Tandaan nyo mismong ang evil nalalaman din nya ang mga nkasulat dito!! Hnd komo nkpagbbasa kayo ng bibliya eh tama n po kayo plagi.. mga ahas ang turing ng Panginoong Hesus s mga pumaparatang s kanya habang Siyay nagtuturo s ilang. S pnahon ntin ngayon sila yung mga SELF-RIGHTEOUS! Hndi po s Diyos yang pgiging confident nyo! Kung nttandaan nyo po yung 2 nanalangin s Diyos? Mas knahaabagan Niya yung publikano na mas tumanggap ng kanyang pagkkamali!He humbled himself and knocked his chest? Ganyan po kmi mga Catholics since nagsulputan ang mga ulupong kami n po ang uniiwas s mga self righteous n paratang! And we sees what have we doñe personally, not thinking about what others’ sin!

  15. #42 by Wesson on November 17, 2012 - 11:23 am

    Mejo late reply pero eto lng masasabe ko imba tong nagsulat neto sabihin ba namang lumipat sila Charice dahil sa violence = nambubugbog ang tatay tapos isasali ung religion. Kahit saan naman merong demonyo maski anong relihiyon mapa Katoliko, INC o iba pa maski sa lahi nasa indibidwal lng naman yan kung kanyang paniniwalaan at susundin ang mga mabubuting bagay na makukuha natin sa isang relihiyon.

    So pag may maling nagawa ang isang miyembro sa isang relihiyon e sisisihin na natin sa relihiyon nila? Tinawag ba namang kulto? lmao I’m not a member of INC pero iba ka rin noh christian daw e kung makapanira kala mo sinong santo matuto kayong rumespeto kahit ano pa man ang paniniwala ng tao basta mabuti eto.

    • #43 by flewen on December 21, 2012 - 6:54 am

      sir, this is in response to how INC also uses emotion and individual mistakes once a certain Catholic converts to their fault…yes, my article is good…anything wrong with my article?

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